Wednesday, November 16, 2005

Undermining Public Schooling

Doesn't it seem weird to have a web site like TeachTheFacts.org, incorporated and everything, with a Board of Directors and a bunch of officers, and a busy blog like Vigilance, and everybody getting emotional and arguing? And across town, another web site about the same thing, taking a different view, and bad-mouthing and saying things and trying to get on the news and threatening to recall the school board... I mean, c'mon, we're talking about a couple of health classes here, who could really care?

Well, really, there's a lot of other stuff going on.

Our health classes are parallel to those biology classes where the same type of ideologues want to teach creationism instead of science. As you know, over in Kansas they got a nutty school board in place, and they voted to make the switch, replace science with ghost stories. That was bad, as one of them said, Kansas is now a laughingstock, and there is some question about what happens to those students when they apply to universities that expect them to have had an education in science.

That was only last week, and now, just look over there and you'll see where this is heading. The Lawrence [Kansas] Journal-World reports:
Topeka — Education Commissioner Bob Corkins and State Board of Education member Connie Morris promoted charter schools on a two-day tour of western Kansas that ended Tuesday.

But the subject didn’t go over so well, according to folks who attended the meetings.

“It was not a warm and fuzzy meeting at all,” said Marvin Selby, superintendent of the Goodland school district.

“We certainly found out what their agenda is,” said Wes Fox, a history teacher at Liberal High School. “It is to promote charter schools.” Corkins, Morris not well-received in tour out west

I think it's about time to pause and look into this "charter school" business a little bit.

So what's that about?
Corkins has promoted changing Kansas law to allow more charter schools, which are schools that are not subject to some of the same rules and regulations as a traditional public school. Morris has spoken in favor of starting a charter school to help students start their own businesses.

Corkins also supports voucher plans that would allow at-risk or special-needs students to receive state tax assistance to attend private schools. He said the move to more charter schools and vouchers would improve education by increasing competition and giving parents more choices for their children’s education.

It is nothing less than an attack on the institution of public schooling in America, and, I think, an attack on intellect as a cultural institution.

Groups like the CRC hammer at a local school district with a win-win strategy. For them. They will insist on some absurd thing, like intelligent design, or "ex-gays," and they will whine and complain and make everybody miserable about it. If the school district gives in, as they did in Kansas, and provides this crazy stuff, then ordinary people will want to send their kids somewhere besides the public schools. If they don't, then the religious extremists can be indignant and threaten to pull all their kids out of the public schools, as the Southern Baptists nearly did recently.

Either way, public education is undermined. I really don't like where this goes, and hope the people of Montgomery County are paying attention.

14 Comments:

Blogger Tish said...

As far as I can see, Jim, we're going back to the 19th Century.

In the 19th century, the dominant culture was Protestant and looked to England as its cultural ancestor. The vast majority of married women worked long hours either in low-income jobs in manufacturing, domestic service or agriculture, or they worked in family businesses and farms and contributed to their families' income without actually drawing a wage. The dominant culture, however pretended that real women did not work. Now known as "The Cult of True Womanhood," the enduring message to women was that their place was in the parlor, providing the emotional, moral and nurturing influence that would keep children and husbands on the straight and narrow. In the 19th Century, any wages a married woman earned belonged to her husband.

In the 19th Century, it was perfectly legal to refuse to hire qualified Jews, Irish, Italians, Greeks, African-Americans, Mexicans, because they were not "white," and if hired, it was perfectly legal to pay them less because they were not "white."

In the 19th Century, women could not receive medical care without the consent of their husbands, or if un-married, fathers or brothers.

In the 19th Century, medical texts warned that educating girls disrupted the balance of their reproductive systems, and that attending college would cause women's wombs to wither and cease functioning.

In the 19th Century, a woman whose husband was sentenced to live in prison could not file for divorce and had to support her family by low-wage work and charity, without the option of remarriage. The same was true for women whose husbands were alcoholic, addicted to opiates, compulsive gamblers, abusive, or who abandoned their families.

Abortion was not illegal at the dawn of the 19th century, but it became illegal on a state-by-state basis beginning shortly after the beginning of the century. At the same time, available methods of birth control were made illegal, regardless of husbands' consent.

In the 19th century, schools were private and regulated only by the parents' happiness and willingness to continue paying tuition. There were no educational standards other than a general agreement that girls needed little education and that immigrants, indians and blacks needed even less.

In the 19th century, pre-teen boys convicted of theft were imprisoned with adults convicted of much more serious and violent crimes.

However, in the 19th century there were reformers in education, health care, women's rights, family law, juvenile law, and civil rights. They gave their lives' work, and in some cases their lives, to make the US a country that respects the rights of individuals while still cooperating as a society to take care of our children and our needy. Barriers to public education were the first to come down. The single most influential law in the history of American Education, the Morrill Act of 1862, was passed during the Civil War and created the system of state agricultural colleges that has now become our system of state universities. Public schools became institutions that could prepare students for higher education.

Now, we have people who think that because marriage, in its most sucessful form, is for life, all marriages should be for life, even when they are prisons of violence and misery for the people who are trapped in them. We are seeing a push to de-value world views that are not informed by particular branches of Protestant Christian faith.

Social conservatives think children should be treated as adults in the justice system. People think that mothers should go back to work, but they don't think mothers should have reliable sources of safe childcare.

They think that education should be geared toward the ideology and comfort level of parents, rather than real-world assessments of what adult employees need to know, or educational methods that have been proven effective.

Social conservatives have the resource of our own past to refer to when promoting their "values," but they refuse to make use of it.

November 17, 2005 10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They think that education should be geared toward the ideology and comfort level of parents, rather than real-world assessments of what adult employees need to know, or educational methods that have been proven effective."

You've done a lot of extrapolating, Tish. Be advised that home schooled and private schooled kids routinely do better on standardized tests than public schooled kids. Most of the leaders of our country and most successful people in every field went to private schools. The effectiveness of the methods of America's public schools are highly in question.

I think if you'll look back, you'll find that American schools began declining about the same time the Warren court began to try to remove any religious influence from the schools. Not to worry- the Roberts court will fix things up.

November 17, 2005 10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And across town, another web site about the same thing, taking a different view, and bad-mouthing and saying things and trying to get on the news and threatening to recall the school board..."

To date, the CRC has consistently said they don't support recalling the school board so this is not factual. If they did, I might consider joining up with them.

"Our health classes are parallel to those biology classes where the same type of ideologues want to teach creationism instead of science."

If by science you mean evolutionary theory, I think few people think creationism will replace evolutionary theory until evolution has been completely disproven. In Dover, Pa., for example, the science curriculum was only to caution students that evolution hasn't been proven and tell them where they could read about an alternative view. It then goes on to teach all the details of Darwinism. In other words, five seconds for design, months on evolution. Even if you assume evolution is true, this hardly represents neglecting the kids' education.

"As you know, over in Kansas they got a nutty school board in place,"

Do we need to look up "nut" in the dictionary?

"and they voted to make the switch, replace science with ghost stories."

No they will study biological functions and consider how they might have come about- among other things.

"That was bad, as one of them said, Kansas is now a laughingstock, and there is some question about what happens to those students when they apply to universities that expect them to have had an education in science."

They would have learned everything everyone else has but will also learn how to critique the status quo.

"That was only last week, and now, just look over there and you'll see where this is heading. The Lawrence [Kansas] Journal-World reports:

Topeka — Education Commissioner Bob Corkins and State Board of Education member Connie Morris promoted charter schools on a two-day tour of western Kansas that ended Tuesday.

But the subject didn’t go over so well, according to folks who attended the meetings.

“It was not a warm and fuzzy meeting at all,” said Marvin Selby, superintendent of the Goodland school district.

“We certainly found out what their agenda is,” said Wes Fox, a history teacher at Liberal High School. “It is to promote charter schools.” Corkins, Morris not well-received in tour out west

I think it's about time to pause and look into this "charter school" business a little bit.

So what's that about?

Corkins has promoted changing Kansas law to allow more charter schools, which are schools that are not subject to some of the same rules and regulations as a traditional public school. Morris has spoken in favor of starting a charter school to help students start their own businesses.

Corkins also supports voucher plans that would allow at-risk or special-needs students to receive state tax assistance to attend private schools. He said the move to more charter schools and vouchers would improve education by increasing competition and giving parents more choices for their children’s education."

The founding father never really thought the government would become responsible for education or they would have made it clear that the establishment clause didn't mean we need to secularize education.

"It is nothing less than an attack on the institution of public schooling in America,"

right

"and, I think, an attack on intellect as a cultural institution."

Be hard to make that case by comparing public and private school educations.

"Groups like the CRC hammer at a local school district with a win-win strategy. For them. They will insist on some absurd thing, like intelligent design,"

I've never heard the CRC say a word about IT so I think this is misleading. Seems like most of them are Catholics and I know you've endorsed the Catholic position on evolution.

"or "ex-gays," and they will whine and complain and make everybody miserable about it. If the school district gives in, as they did in Kansas, and provides this crazy stuff, then ordinary people will want to send their kids somewhere besides the public schools."

Well ordinary people do that now- doesn't seem to be a problem. Leaves more money to educate gang members.

"If they don't, then the religious extremists can be indignant and threaten to pull all their kids out of the public schools, as the Southern Baptists nearly did recently.

Either way, public education is undermined. I really don't like where this goes, and hope the people of Montgomery County are paying attention."

You'll probably like it more than you think. Don't worry.

Montgomery County is more of a trend-followere than trend-setter.

November 17, 2005 1:10 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

Do we need to look up "nut" in the dictionary?

No, you can use THIS DEFINITION.

JimK

November 17, 2005 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But here and there are people who find gay people to be the most ... interesting ... thing in the world."

From your meditation on nuttiness. No commentary necessary.

November 17, 2005 2:11 PM  
Blogger Kay2898 said...

anonymous said: "To date, the CRC has consistently said they don't support recalling the school board so this is not factual. If they did, I might consider joining up with them."


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November 17, 2005 2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous quoted...

"But here and there are people who find gay people to be the most ... interesting ... thing in the world."

Anonymous said again: "From your meditation on nuttiness. No commentary necessary."

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Jim also said that right after that sentence:

They hate them, but they just can't seem to stop thinking about them.

Does that apply to you anonymous????

"anon free"

November 17, 2005 2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Does that apply to you anonymous????"

Nope.

November 17, 2005 2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Have you joined yet?"

Not talking to you, Kay, but I must admit, this was amusing.

November 17, 2005 2:43 PM  
Blogger andrear said...

See, here is where we have a statement- the CRC consistently said they don't support recalling the school board. So when Anon said - This is not factual- perhaps it is the recognition that the CRC did - the Recall site and address used by all of the CRC officers should be proof enough. But Anon believes them- because despite what the did and what the e:mail shows- they said they didn't do it.

November 17, 2005 3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea

This whole thing has been explained again and again and I'm not doing it again.

The whole bottom line is: who cares?

Only people that want to win by personal attacks rather than substance.

November 17, 2005 3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is a comment here hidden from the public

November 21, 2005 12:51 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

What does that mean?

JimK

November 21, 2005 12:56 PM  
Blogger andrear said...

Sorry, anon- you can't get away with saying something proven isn't factual in one note and then just dismiss it later. It was a fact, CRC lied and that is the end. I don't care if they first wanted to recall the board and then changed their minds. I am just pointing out that it happened and they lied about it. I am not trying to win by personal attacks-that is more CRC's line of work. See, I have been quite honest about my earlier protests and anger at the BOE- I don't deny it, I am proud of it- and I would never get up at a BOE meeting and say " I love the BOE". I think the BOE has neglected special education and down county schools but that is for another board. The explanations CRC offers are lies - you believe them if you want- I do understand that the reason CRC members had recallthe board e:mail is that was the only email address available that day.

November 22, 2005 2:33 PM  

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