Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Dogfight at the Ex-Gay Corral

The "ex-gays" are imploding after Exodus International President Alan Chambers' recent comments to the LA Times that sexual orientation doesn't really change and that there might not be any such thing as an "ex-gay."

Professional heterosexual Stephen Bennett jumped into the fray immediately. Here's how the Christian NewsWire puts it (I just love this language, just beautifully impartial):
HUNTINGTON, Conn., June 19 /Christian Newswire/ -- Stephen Bennett, President of Stephen Bennett Ministries, a pro-family organization advocating for the traditional family, the protection of children and proclaiming the truth about homosexuality, condemned the irresponsible and disturbing remarks attributed to and made by Alan Chambers, President of Exodus International, an organization claiming to be "The largest information and referral ministry in the world on homosexual issues."

Bennett, along with many others pro-family leaders, were shaken Monday by Chamber's remarks and are eagerly awaiting Exodus International's official response to their President's misguided statements. Sorry Exodus, Homosexuals Can COMPLETELY Change

You ought to go read that one, it is over the top, a laugh a minute.

Then you had the the "leather-loving, undercover gay fornication investigator" Peter LaBarbera (to use Pam Spaulding's inimitable description), of Concerned Women for America ... listen, somebody tell me, why are all the concerned women men? Well, anyway, he wants you to know that Alan Chambers is wrong. And here's his take on it:
There is a whole homosexual activist cottage industry, led by [Wayne] Besen and ExGayWatch, that — like the enemy of our souls — essentially gloats over failure. This decidedly evil movement heralds the latest stories of failed “ex-gays” who return to homosexual behavior, while ignoring (or ridiculing) the obvious successes and the fact that many people who’ve overcome homosexuality don’t care to talk publicly about the sins they left behind. The Question Is Not ‘Can Gays Change’ but How Many Already Have?

That cottage industry. Like, you know, when they stop traffic on Rockville Pike so the ExGayWatch motorcade can pass, with the rainbow bunting draped over their pink Cadillacs. But you must agree -- the whole homosexual activist cottage industry is just ... so ... fabulous. And the cottages, they're so nicely decorated.

Look, you guys, here's the deal. Alan Chambers said there're no "ex-gays" for a simple reason: there are no "ex-gays." He's been right in the middle of the whole thing for many years, if there was one he'd know about it, and he says he doesn't think he's ever met an "ex-gay." I'm not saying the guy's not full of it, but in this case he's just saying what everybody already knows.

PFOX sued our schools, they send home fliers in our county's schoolchildren's backpacks, telling them that "change is possible." It's not. It's possible to learn to live without love, it's possible to be celibate, it's even possible to pretend you're attracted to somebody you're not. I don't know why somebody would want to do that, but you can if you want.

I'm going to go make some popcorn and come back and see how this turns out.

11 Comments:

Anonymous Steve Boese said...

Hey Jim...

I suspect the truth is that Chambers is finally becoming nominally responsive to the more level-headed folks running the 100+ local ex-gay ministries affiliated with it. The level-headed contingent has never been as vocal as the screechy ones like Stephen Bennett, but there are indications from time to time that they are pressing for less politicization of the ex-gay movement and more honesty about ex-gay life.

Stephen Bennett, on the other hand, appears to be a guy with adult ADD (every few months he has a new project of international scope which is going to turn the world upside-down) who is simply delusional when it comes to sexual orientation.

On a tangent from that, the Beyond Ex-Gay founders, Christine and Peterson, have invited Exodus leaders to hear their stories, but their appeal is being pretty much drowned out by the dogfight.

This is seminal stuff. Exodus and its ex-gay supporters prefer to see themselves as addiction counselors and the people they have hurt as alcoholics who returned to the bottle. In their open letter, Peterson and Christine give ex-gay leaders the benefit of the doubt: "We understand that [hurting us] was not your intent... You meant to bless us... The purpose of the dinner is to give you an opportunity to hear our stories."

If you find yourself inclined, we'd really appreciate seeing a blog post about this. Hopefully Exodus will accept this invitation, but regardless their response will speak to their true level of concern for people they have served.

Take care...

June 20, 2007 7:34 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

Thanks, Steve, I saw this over at Box Turtle today. It's quite an interesting development. It is a terrible shame that groups like PFOX and these others have made someone's personal crisis into a political cause.

I am definitely watching that story for the blog.

JimK

June 20, 2007 7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Look, you guys, here's the deal. Alan Chambers said there're no "ex-gays" for a simple reason: there are no "ex-gays." He's been right in the middle of the whole thing for many years, if there was one he'd know about it, and he says he doesn't think he's ever met an "ex-gay.""

I don't what would lead him to say this. I heard a couple of ex-gays, (one female, one male) from his organization speak publicly about a year ago. There were connected to the Fairfax group as I recall.

June 20, 2007 7:59 PM  
Anonymous Merle said...

Think about it, Anon. Anybody can be exgay for a day. Hell, any queer can say he's exgay just to attract some attention. What are the chances those people you saw are still saying their exgay?

Merle

June 20, 2007 8:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What are the chances those people you saw are still saying their exgay?"

Good to excellent.

June 20, 2007 8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What are the chances those people you saw are still saying their exgay?"

Good to excellent.

June 20, 2007 8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea - not anon

Well, Anon- maybe you believe in the Tooth Fairy too.

June 20, 2007 9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, it's "there's no ex-gays"

Then, if one is located, "it's a temporary condition"

Sounds like a fantasy you don't want disturbed.

June 20, 2007 9:26 PM  
Blogger JimK said...

Anon, you're joking, right?

There are many times more ex-ex-gays than ex-gays out there, including a lot of the people who started the whole hoax in the first place.

JimK

June 20, 2007 9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There are many times more ex-ex-gays than ex-gays out there, including a lot of the people who started the whole hoax in the first place."

And how would you know that?

June 21, 2007 3:59 PM  
Blogger Randi Schimnosky said...

From the studies by Spitzer and Shidlo and Schroeder. They show an overwhelming failure rate from "reparitive therapy" - over 99%. Its clear from this "reparitive therapy" is almost always a failure and for every one person who might be "exgay" there are at least 200 who are ex-"exgay".

June 22, 2007 3:21 PM  

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