Wednesday, April 09, 2008

ADF Spins It Their Way

Somebody alerted me to a web site with some information on it about our local controversy. Our Montgomery County anti-gay/anti-transgender group, currently calling themselves Citizens for a Responsible Government, submitted petitions to have a referendum put on the ballot in November. They submitted enough names, and the Board of Elections looked them over and certified them. Equality Maryland got copies of the petitions and the voter registration database, and has been going through them, looking at the signatures, and has determined that thousands of them were improperly validated by the elections board. On the basis of that, a group of county citizens filed suit against the board.

In the meantime, the Citizens for a Responsible Whatever (it used to be "Curriculum," they changed it to "Government") retained a legal group that has been involved in all kinds of rightwing causes. I'm reading about the Alliance Defense Fund in Wikipedia:
The Alliance Defense Fund ("ADF") is a conservative Christian non-profit organization with the stated goal of "defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation." In practice ADF is opposed to all forms of abortion, same-sex marriage, adoption by same-sex couples, allowing LGBT persons to serve in the military, and sex education in schools that includes comprehensive education on contraception. ADF also works to establish public prayer in schools and government events, and to protect religious displays in government settings, like crosses and other religious monuments built on public lands.

ADF was launched in 1994 by Bill Bright (founder, Campus Crusade for Christ), Larry Burkett (founder, Crown Financial Ministries), James Dobson (founder, Focus on the Family), D. James Kennedy (founder, Coral Ridge Ministries), Marlin Maddoux (President, International Christian Media), and Donald Wildmon (founder, American Family Association), along with the leadership of over thirty other conservative Christian organizations. ADF supports allied attorneys and organizations through strategy, training, funding, and direct litigation through its legal team. Wikipedia: Allied Defense Fund

So this is a big-time group with connections to all the Family Blah-Blah organizations.

They put up something on their web site about their support for the CRW's referendum effort. You might find some of this interesting.
BALTIMORE — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund filed a motion Wednesday asking a Maryland court to allow voters to defend a petition being challenged by advocates of homosexual behavior even though the signatures have already been certified. A citizen voter coalition collected substantially more than the required number of signatures for the referendum petition, which gives voters their right to be heard on a county bill that extends special legal protections based on "gender identity."

"In America, every citizen’s voice counts. The signatures on these petitions are valid, so these citizens should not be denied the right to have their vote count in an important referendum," said ADF Senior Legal Counsel Austin R. Nimocks. "In Maryland, the people are the ultimate legislative authority and they must be heard." ADF to defend Md. voters’ right to be heard

They would like to portray this as a way for "the people" to be heard.

You got to hand it to these characters, they have a way of simplifying things so even the stupidest person can get their point. Actually, this kind of argument is tailored for stupid people.

The public doesn't vote on every little thing. The reason is this: being informed about the details of policy, the potential effects of particular decisions, the political subtleties of policy choices, is a full-time job. You and I don't have enough hours in the day to ponder every word of every bill the County Council votes on, never mind the state legislature and Congress. We can't consider every line in the budget, government employees' salaries, hiring people to maintain the roads and the parks and trash collection.

We elect people to do that. It's their job, they spend eight hours a day doing nothing else, and most of them end up going out at night and meeting with the public or with interested parties, too. And they have people working for them who find out information and help them understand it all. It's a lot of people putting in a lot of hours.

The County Council members were elected, as I recall, by large majorities, and they voted unanimously to add some wording to the standing nondiscrimination law. The County Executive signed the new bill without hesitation.

The people are in control of the process. We elect the people who put in the hours necessary for this sort of thing. We are a republic, not a democracy. If "the people" voted on every piece of policy and law, you would have chaos as uninformed people made important decisions, and you would have unbelievable inequities as the majority gave all special privileges to themselves. Our country is intentionally not like that.

If the citizens of the county were asked how they feel about gender identity, surveys show that ninety percent of them would say "Huh?" People don't know what the term "gender identity" means, most of them don't know a transgender person, most people don't care one way or the other about it. People in our county lean toward fairness, they would figure, okay, somebody changes from a man to a woman or vice versa, it's their life, they deserve to be treated fairly, and that would be it.

The other side however has described the issue in sensationalistic terms. Their web site isn't called "discriminateagainsttransgender.com," it's called "notmyshower.net." Because it's about showers. It's about men going into the ladies locker rooms. And if you asked people to vote on that, just about everybody would vote against it, nobody wants men in the ladies room, especially pedophiles and predators that they keep talking about.

That means if this goes to referendum there will have to be a huge educational effort. You can say "predators in the ladies room" or "safety of children" in one short breath, but you can't explain why somebody would want to change their sex without going into some detail, some nuance. It will be expensive, it will require a lot of effort to get the public up to the level of knowledge that the Council had when they voted on this thing.

ADF has more to say:
The group Equality Maryland filed suit to challenge the petition process and various signatures shortly after the Montgomery County Board of Elections certified them. ADF attorneys filed a motion to intervene in the lawsuit, Doe v. Montgomery County Board of Elections, on behalf of Citizens for Responsible Government to protect the interests of the voters of Montgomery County.

"No evidence has been presented to show that any of the signatures are invalid or that these registered voters should not take part in the democratic process," said Nimocks. "The political agenda of an activist group cannot be allowed to disenfranchise the voters of an entire county. The referendum simply allows the people of Montgomery County to decide the issue, but apparently Equality Maryland doesn’t want the people to be heard."

There is a good reason that no evidence has been presented, and that is that there hasn't been a court hearing yet. You don't present the evidence when you file a suit, you do that later, which I would think these lawyers would know.

It's probably pretty smart for them to pretend to be the mainstream, contrasted to an "activist group" like Equality Maryland. Except people have just come through nearly eight years of the Bush administration and don't have much tolerance any more for the religious right and its judgmental, self-interested ways. Nobody thinks of that as "mainstream," especially around here.

36 Comments:

Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

Last week Kansas City, MO voted unanimously for its trans civil rights bill, and yesterday Detroit voted 8-1.

ADF will have its work cut out for it, in MoCo and beyond.

April 09, 2008 5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know if either place included a religious exemption, Dana?

April 09, 2008 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
I frequently pray out loud at the start of government events- I say " dear Lord, let this meeting/powerpoint presentation end soon". My co-workers often say "AMEN!" but we don't need thed backward thinking ADF to help us.

An organization that thinks we shouldn't teach about contraception-brilliant showerhead compatriots, as ever.

April 09, 2008 7:58 PM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

No, I do not. I've tried but not been able to get copies.

I seem to recall from earlier work that Kansas City may already have a religious exemption for its overall non-discrimination code. If it does, I would doubt adding gender identity would have changed it, just as adding it in MoCo didn't necessitate a change. We don't have it for any other category, so there is no need for this specific one.

If you're so interested in such an exemption, I suggest you find a Councilmember to present a bill to amend the entire non-discrimination law to provide such an exemption. Then you can cleanly make your case without singling out trans persons, which is prejudicial.

April 09, 2008 8:49 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

ADF opposes "sex education in schools that includes comprehensive education on contraception."

But the CDC recommends:

"...The proper and consistent use of latex or polyurethane (a type of plastic) condoms when engaging in sexual intercourse--vaginal, anal, or oral--can greatly reduce a person’s risk of acquiring or transmitting sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV infection...

For condoms to provide maximum protection, they must be used consistently (every time) and correctly. Several studies of correct and consistent condom use clearly show that latex condom breakage rates in this country are less than 2 percent...
"

April 09, 2008 8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you're so interested in such an exemption, I suggest you find a Councilmember to present a bill to amend the entire non-discrimination law to provide such an exemption. Then you can cleanly make your case without singling out trans persons, which is prejudicial."

This response from Dana shows how this bill is not really about relieving any hardship but all about having governmental endorsement for the concept that thought life is the equivalent of physical identity.

April 10, 2008 1:10 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

I think Dana's response shows that she supports equal treatment for all individuals in the eyes of the law. If there's a religious exemption to a non-discrimination law for one group, there should be the same exemption for all groups. This is America where We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

April 10, 2008 7:10 AM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

"thought life is the equivalent of physical identity."

You have clearly missed out on some of your schooling, or you have a serious learning disability. I have made the physical sources of gender identity clear on this blog repeatedly over the years, and you continue to spout nonsense.

There is only so much I can do.

April 10, 2008 8:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've have indeed made clear your theories. Your assertion that they are or should be universally accepted is not correct.

April 10, 2008 8:51 AM  
Anonymous Robert said...

Dana

Although Anonymous' refusal to learn anything and alter her anti-T stance must be frustrating, I want to thank you for all the info you've shared on trans people. I've learned an enormous amount from your responses to his puerile comments.

Robert

April 10, 2008 9:40 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

To my knowledge, no piece of civil rights legislation has ever managed to force “universal acceptance.” There will always be groups of people who will never subscribe to a particular belief. All the law does is force people to ACT like they don’t discriminate, and be more subtle about their reservations / discomfort / disgust / hatred / discrimination in the public sphere.

Peace,

Cynthia

April 10, 2008 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WASHINGTON (April 10) - Barack Obama says if elected president he won't require that his appointees to the Joint Chiefs of Staff support allowing gays to serve openly in the military

April 10, 2008 12:43 PM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

Robert,

My point is that I haven't been speaking on this solely to educate about transgender and intersex. The larger point is that everyone has a brain (however poorly some may be functioning around here), and everyone has a brain sex, and hence, everyone has a gender identity. This is science, and in ten months science will once again be respected in this country.

April 10, 2008 1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brain sex is pseudo-science, Dr.

Beyond proof.

April 10, 2008 2:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More psuedo-science, atheists try to push their doctrine into schools:

"Shouldn't biology teachers and textbooks stick with science and leave metaphysical statements--especially statements implying or promoting atheism--out of the classroom? I have made a constitutional argument that they must, and some leading Christian groups are now reviewing this strategy. Meanwhile, atheists on this blog and elsewhere noisily contend that there is no problem, and that no one is peddling atheism in the name of science.

In this context it's instructive to review a controversy generated several years ago by the National Association of Biology Teachers (NABT) when the group decided to remove the words "impersonal" and "unsupervised" from its position statement on the teaching of evolution. The NABT is a membership organization of thousands of teachers at the elementary, secondary and college levels. It has been in the forefront of legal battles against "creation science" and "intelligent design."

The original statement said, "The diversity of life on earth is the result of evolution: an unsupervised, impersonal, unpredictable and natural process of temporal descent with genetic modification that is affected by natural selection, historical contengencies, and changing environments." And there it is: the official statement of the largest pro-evolution group of teachers smuggling metaphysical atheism into a scientific claim about evolution. Let's remember that this metaphysical pronouncement appears in an instruction manual for science teachers nationwide. So much for atheist ideologues who say that this is not an issue for anyone to worry about.

Two thoughtful academics, philosopher Alvin Plantinga and theologian Huston Smith, noticed the problem and wrote the NABT. They pointed out that the vast majority of Americans believe that a personal agent, God, is responsible for both the universe and for life. What Christians object to is not the idea that the earth is old or that one life form has evolved into another; what they object to is the insinuation, using the authority of science, that Gd does not exist and that material reality is all that there is.

Plantinga and Huston noted that terms like "impersonal" and "unsupervised" are not scientific terms. "It is extremely hard to see how an empirical science such as biology could address such a theological question as whether a process like evolution is or isn't directed by God. How could an empirical inquiry possibly show that God was not guiding and directing evolution?"

The NABT board found the argument persuasive, and decided to drop the two unscientific terms from its statement. At this point, a group of atheists, led by one Massimo Pigliucci, filed an open letter with more than 100 signatures accusing the NABT of bowing to religious pressure. But Eugenie Scott, writing on behalf of the NABT, pointed out that the NABT's decision was scientific and not political. Scott noted that making metaphysical claims about God's existence or nonexistence "is venturing outside of what science can tell us."

Atheists who were hoping to use the battering ram of evolution to attack religion were bitterly disappointed by this outcome. But this was one small episode: I'd like to see a coordinated strategy over the next several years to increase their dismay. Imagine the apoplexy in the God-hating camp if courts rule that atheist interpretations of evolution by scientists such as Richard Dawkins, William Provine, Steven Pinker, Douglas Futuyma and others have no place in the biology classroom! When atheism is the loser, science is the winner."

April 10, 2008 4:38 PM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

Anon: "Brain sex is pseudo-science, Dr.

Beyond proof."

And you are an ignoramus.

April 10, 2008 4:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCain Erases Obama's Lead in New Poll released today

April 10, 2008 7:00 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

WASHINGTON (April 10) - Barack Obama says if elected president he won't require that his appointees to the Joint Chiefs of Staff support allowing gays to serve openly in the military

Did you read more than the first sentence of the article? Did you go to The Advocate to read the excerpts of their exclusive interview with Obama that was the basis of that article?

The very next sentence in today's Washington Post article entitled "Obama: Repeal of "Don't Ask" Possible" is:

The Democratic presidential front-runner favors repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays, which was instituted during the Clinton administration.

Anon couldn't tell the whole truth if her life depended on it.

Interested parties may want to read the original source, the Obama interview with The Advocate. Here's a relevant excerpt:

If you were elected, what do you plan to do for the LGBT community -- what can you reasonably get done?

I reasonably can see “don’t ask, don’t tell” eliminated. I think that I can help usher through an Employment Non-Discrimination Act and sign it into law.

You think it’s transgender-inclusive?


I think that’s going to be tough, and I’ve said this before. I have been clear about my interest in including gender identity in legislation, but I’ve also been honest with the groups that I’ve met with that it is a heavy lift through Congress. We’ve got some Democrats who are willing to vote for a non-inclusive bill but we lose them on an inclusive bill, and we just may not be able to generate the votes. I don’t know. And obviously, my goal would be to get the strongest possible bill -- that’s what I’ll be working for.

The third thing I believe I can get done is in dealing with federal employees, making sure that their benefits, that their ability to transfer health or pension benefits the same way that opposite-sex couples do, is something that I’m interested in making happen and I think can be done with some opposition, some turbulence, but I think we can get that done.

And finally, an area that I’m very interested in is making sure that federal benefits are available to same-sex couples who have a civil union. I think as more states sign civil union bills into law the federal government should be helping to usher in a time when there’s full equality in terms of what that means for federal benefits.

April 10, 2008 9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad you read the whole article, B.

Presidential candidates with those kind of views never win the election.

The part about how he'll be secretly trying to advance the transgender agenda, even though most Americans don't agree with it,
is priceless.

Ask George McGovern.

Don't blame me. I voted for Hillary!

April 10, 2008 10:58 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

The part about how he'll be secretly trying to advance the transgender agenda...

You still can't comprehend what you read or report the whole truth, can you Anon? It appears to be impossible for you to be fully honest. What part of I’ve said this before. I have been clear about my interest in including gender identity in legislation tells you he's secretly trying to advance full civil right for LGBT people? He's been clear in his repeated assertions that his commitment is to try to make sure that we are moving in the direction of full equality, and I think the federal government historically has led on civil rights -- I’d like to see us lead here too.

April 10, 2008 11:26 PM  
Blogger Emproph said...

ADF Senior Legal Counsel Austin R. Nimocks: "The signatures on these petitions are valid"
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Valid:

1: having legal efficacy or force; especially : executed with the proper legal authority and formalities (a valid contract)

2 a: well-grounded or justifiable : being at once relevant and meaningful (a valid theory) b: logically correct (a valid argument) (valid inference)

3: appropriate to the end in view : effective (every craft has its own valid methods)

4 of a taxon : conforming to accepted principles of sound biological classification

synonyms:

valid, sound, cogent, convincing, telling mean having such force as to compel serious attention and usually acceptance.

valid implies being supported by objective truth or generally accepted authority (a valid reason for being absent) (a valid marriage).

sound implies a basis of flawless reasoning or of solid grounds (a sound proposal for reviving the economy).

cogent may stress either weight of sound argument and evidence or lucidity of presentation (the prosecutor's cogent summation won over the jury).

convincing suggests a power to overcome doubt, opposition, or reluctance to accept (a convincing argument for welfare reform).

telling stresses an immediate and crucial effect striking at the heart of a matter (a telling example of bureaucratic waste).
--
ADF Senior Legal Counsel Austin R. Nimocks: "The signatures on these petitions are valid"
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Voters Sue MoCo Board of Elections

Paraphrased:
did not sign the papers in their own proper persons * not registered voters * addresses not in Montgomery County * addresses missing or incomplete * signed the Petition more than one time * not signed but printed * not signed by the circulator * circulator's address is incorrect * not signed by the circulator in his/her own proper person * circulator did not personally circulate * circulator's address is incomplete * alterations indicative of fraud …“white out” * individuals signed Petitions not in the presence of the purported circulator * circulator purported to attest to his or her own signature * date of the circulator affidavit is before the date of the signatures * date of the circulator affidavit appears to have been altered * numerous other disqualifying errors, not specifically enumerated herein * BOE ignored the deficiencies in the Petition’s form and content, and the unfair, inaccurate and misleading tactics used by its proponents to obtain signatures * BOE either ignored or did not properly analyze the categories set forth above.
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ADF Senior Legal Counsel Austin R. Nimocks: "The signatures on these petitions are valid"

April 11, 2008 5:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What part of I’ve said this before. I have been clear about my interest in including gender identity in legislation tells you he's secretly trying to advance full civil right for LGBT people?"

It's the part where he disdains the views of the voters.

Obama is busy producing material for use in Republican ad this fall.

April 11, 2008 9:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
Valid- invalid. County resident/non-county resident, fake signatures, duplicate signatures,approved by the person collecting petitions before the date of the signature- An attorney from Arizona says it is valid. Are you going to believe the actual petitions or an attorney(especially this one)?

April 11, 2008 9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, lunatic fringe gay advocates say we can't trust the Board of Elections.

Lunatic fringe gay group or Board of Elections.

I just can't make up my mind who to believe.

I know, let's vote on it!

April 11, 2008 11:00 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

It's the part where he disdains the views of the voters.

You mean like this?

RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it's [the Iraq war] not worth fighting.

CHENEY: So?

RADDATZ: So? You don't care what the American people think?

CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.

April 11, 2008 11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Difference, B, is this: voters supported the war when it started and there is movement toward realizing it is wise to finish. You can't conduct foreign policy on a yo-yo basis.

The majority of Americans has never supported the endorsement or normalization of transgenderism.

April 11, 2008 11:37 AM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

And the majority is irrelevant. If it were relevant, we'd still be a slave society.

But just so you know, the majority of Americans does support trans civil rights bills, from 65-70%.

April 11, 2008 11:46 AM  
Blogger Emproph said...

Stunning said...
"Lunatic fringe gay group or Board of Elections.

I just can't make up my mind who to believe.

I know, let's vote on it!"

--
Truly. The definition of valid should be put to a vote.

After all, who better to define the meaning of valid than those who live in la la land?

April 11, 2008 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But just so you know, the majority of Americans does support trans civil rights bills, from 65-70%."

Really?

Then why does Obama think the majority of Congress will not support something so fun?

I've heard most of those Congressmen were elected.

Maybe the legislators have lunatic fringe aides controlling their actions.

It happens.

April 11, 2008 12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And the majority is irrelevant."

What in the heck?

"If it were relevant, we'd still be a slave society."

Wrong. An abolition movement, started in churches, succeeded by using moral suasion to move the masses.

If transgenders were enslaved, churches would be denouncing that.

April 11, 2008 12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Truly. The definition of valid should be put to a vote."

It's a better alternative than just taking the word of lunatic fringers. Better yet, let's elect a Board of Elections and let them judge it.

"After all, who better to define the meaning of valid than those who live in la la land?"

Thank you for realizing that we just not let lunatic fringe gay advocates take away the rights of voters.

That wasn't so hard, was it?

April 11, 2008 12:30 PM  
Blogger Emproph said...

Stunning said...
"Thank you for realizing that we just not let lunatic fringe gay advocates take away the rights of voters.

That wasn't so hard, was it?"


Not at all. Those who refer to equality as a "lunatic fringe gay advocates" agenda, will always be among us.

April 11, 2008 3:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Equality?

Those who think marriage is equal to gay guys committed to exchanging bodily fluids with one special guy are lunatics.

April 11, 2008 3:46 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Ah yes… thanks for reminding me that heterosexual marriages like those of Brittany Spears are SO much more special, meaningful, and devout.

The first couple to be married in San Francisco during the city’s flirt with gay marriages had been together for 51 years. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/12/gay.marriage.california.ap/)

Who am I to question the commitment of these two women who are now in their 80’s? I can only imagine the harassment and difficulties they have had to overcome together in the past 5 decades.

Peace,

Cynthia

April 12, 2008 12:36 PM  
Blogger Emproph said...

Emproph: "Those who refer to equality as a "lunatic fringe gay advocates" agenda, will always be among us."

To which Stunning replied:

"Equality?

Those who think marriage is equal to gay guys committed to exchanging bodily fluids with one special guy are lunatics."

--
Your making that point is precisely my point.

April 13, 2008 3:17 AM  
Blogger Emproph said...

Stunning said...
"Those who think marriage is equal to gay guys committed to exchanging bodily fluids with one special guy are lunatics."

Yes indeed, and the truth half comes out. What you really mean to say is that gay relationships -- monogamous even -- are nothing more than sexual promiscuity with the same person.

Tell us Stunning, what’s it say when the lunatic can not only define your own definition of lunacy better than you can, but also has the guts to?

I can think of only one word to describe your pathos…

Stunning.

April 13, 2008 4:06 AM  

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