Friday, April 24, 2009

"God Hates Fags" Protesters Visit MoCo

The "God Hates Fags" group from Westboro Baptist Church came to our county today, because one of our schools is named after a dead poet who may have been gay. The Washington Post has the story -- follow the link for video, too:
A group of seven congregants from Topeka, Kansas, set up outside Walt Whitman High School in Bethesda today to protest the sexual orientation of the dead poet for whom the school was named.

The police presence -- 40 officers, five horses, blocked-off streets and a football field's length of yellow tape -- seemed comically disproportionate until the counter-protest arrived.

At 2:10 p.m. dismissal, 500 students issued forth from the campus and lined up, several students deep, along the police tape, across Whittier Boulevard from their foils. They alternately chanted the school name and "Go home!" drowning out voices from across the street.

Whitman, a 19th century poet with major influence on American literature, is generally regarded as gay, but his sexual identity remains enigmatic.

The Westboro Baptist Church has gained national notoriety for its anti-homosexuality demonstrations, staged provocatively outside military funerals and at schools that are putting on the musical "Rent." This morning, before heading to Whitman, they showed up at the funeral of the Middletown, Md., family that perished in a murder-suicide last week, claiming that those deaths, like the military casualties, were God's wrath toward a godless people. Police asked them to leave.

But at Whitman, the protesters arrived to palpable excitement. Faculty had spun the event into an interdisciplinary lesson. English teachers spent the day teaching Whitman's verse. Social studies teachers led a unit on tolerance. Math teachers fanned through the crowd, attempting a head count. Opposing Students Overwhelm Anti-Gay Protest

The news story says there were seven protesters, all from the Westboro Baptist Church, so it looks like none of our local Citizens for Responsible Whatever joined them. It doesn't sound like there was any violence or rowdiness, and it also sounds like Whitman kids have their heads on straight.
"This is my school, and this is where I live, and that makes it personal to me," said Maddie Oliver, 18, a senior. She wore one of many blue T-shirts emblazoned with the Whitman passage, "Let your soul stand cool and composed." Principal Alan Goodwin helped choose the slogan and hoped students would see its wisdom.

Indeed, no one was injured, and no property damaged. Rebekah Phelps-Davis, daughter of Westboro pastor Fred Phelps, said it was "the duty of the servants of God to go where the message needs to be heard."

Susan Russell, 17, a junior, said she hoped publicity stirred by the protest would "highlight how ridiculous they are. I mean, that sign -- 'You will eat your babies' -- that doesn't even mean anything."

Yeah, you do wonder what the point is.

29 Comments:

Anonymous Derrick said...

There is also video of the event:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403461.html?hpid=topnews


Look, AnonBigot- the odds were over 500 (pro-equality) - to - 7 (pro-hate/CRC-R).

I student taught at Whitman and am proud to be a teacher in MCPS.

April 25, 2009 2:07 AM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

PS-- the "R" stands for the "Right" Wing.

April 25, 2009 2:52 AM  
Blogger Dana Beyer, M.D. said...

Actually, it does mean something. It's from the chapter "Ki Tavo" , Deuteronomy 28:53, known as the "Tochecha," or "Rebuke."

It is a Fox TV version (or maybe "South Park," depending on your preference) of the end of Israel to be visited upon a nation that ignores Yahweh's law, or, as these clowns would have it, do not adequately "hate fags."

It should be noted that in synagogue on that day this entire segment is to be read "sotto voce" and very rapidly, because the imagery is so horrendous and, my belief, that we're embarrassed that this is part of the Torah.

April 25, 2009 8:45 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

It looks like the WW students did a wonderful job. Bravo.

Peace,

Cynthia

April 25, 2009 10:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dana, thanks for quoting scripture.

Any verses from the Torah about who God hates?

April 25, 2009 7:41 PM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

Just wondering, AnonBigot--

were you able to meet up with your friends from the WBC while they were in the area? What a shame it would be to miss them after traveling so far to fight for a cause that you believe in.

April 25, 2009 8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Look, AnonBigot- the odds were over 500 (pro-equality) - to - 7 (pro-hate/CRC-R).

I student taught at Whitman and am proud to be a teacher in MCPS."

I bet you are.

There were 500 kids protesting because they were encouraged to do so by their teachers, who control their grades, their college recommendations, whether they make the team or the play, whether they can go to the freakin' bathroom, et al.

Ever hear of Stockholm Syndrome?

Teachers, government employees, improperly used their position of authority to encourage a screaming mob to intimidate a peaceful dissent against their institution.

They may have given WBC grounds for a lawsuit.

It'll be interesting to see the fallout.

April 25, 2009 8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, please "Anonymous"...what a fatuous comment to make: "There were 500 kids protesting because they were encouraged to do so by their teachers, who control their grades, their college recommendations, whether they make the team or the play, whether they can go to the freakin' bathroom, et al." Then you compound your ignorance and stupidity by making this inflamatory statement: "Teachers, government employees, improperly used their position of authority to encourage a screaming mob to intimidate a peaceful dissent against their institution."

Were you there to witness this "screaming mob" action? No? Then you are bearing false witness (which I believe is a sin according you your religious beliefs).


You have dishonestly and disingenuously described the actions of the kids at Whitman, who are actually intelligent beings capable of making their own decisions. Those students saw through the hatred, raw bigotry and misappropriation of religion by the sinners of Westboro Baptist Church and their hateful, anti-Christ actions. The kids needed no prompting from their teachers, Principal, or any other adults. They knew injustice when they saw it and they spoke out against it.

As for your suggestion of a law-suit (and from the sounds of that "threat" you seem to have some inside track into the thinking of this lunatic group from Kansas), perhaps you could recommend the infamous Montgomery attorney, John Garza, to represent them in another losing suit in court.
You are pathetic!
Athena

April 25, 2009 9:37 PM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

Well, AnonBigot-- we have "sexual orientation" in our non-discrimination clause so I really doubt any lawsuit can be made.

I love how you are a great friend and standing up for your pals at the WBC/CRC-G.

Oh, btw, I also use my "power" as a teacher to force the pluperfect subjunctive onto the those young minds.

Srsly? Get with it!

April 25, 2009 9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Were you there to witness this "screaming mob" action?
No? Then you are bearing false witness (which I believe is a sin according you your religious beliefs)."

Well, I couldn't have been there because the government closed off the street to make sure no one saw the protest. Another constitutional violation.

I'm relying on the information posted here by Jim K.

"The kids needed no prompting from their teachers, Principal, or any other adults."

How do you know that? Are you bearing false witness?

It's a little hard to say if they needed prompting since they got a lot of it. What's remarkable is how few kids counter-protested, considering the pressure.

While we're at it, all the kids were leaving at the time. Kids tend to mill around after school and watch any spectacles that have gotten a lot of publicity. How can we assume that 500 were counter-protesting?

My guess is that without all the propaganda effort by the school administration, most kids would prefer that their school not be named after a homosexual. Just a hunch.

"They knew injustice when they saw it and they spoke out against it."

Really? I haven't heard of any injustice on Friday other than that the local government was trying to intimidate a small group of protesters, exercising their constitutional rights.

What injustice did these students see?

April 25, 2009 10:48 PM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Derrick revealed:

“Oh, btw, I also use my "power" as a teacher to force the pluperfect subjunctive onto those young minds.”

Please, say it ain’t so Derrick! Not the pluperfect subjunctive!! Have you no mercy man?!

Shocked Cyn

April 26, 2009 12:05 AM  
Blogger JimK said...

Derrick, I agree, you have almost gone too far. Any more and I will have to delete your comments. Pluperfect was okay, subjunctive is over the line.

JimK

April 26, 2009 12:09 AM  
Anonymous svelte_brunette said...

Anon stated:

“They may have given WBC grounds for a lawsuit.
It'll be interesting to see the fallout.”

Please Anon, share your infinite legal wisdom with us and enlighten those of us in the dark as to what grounds the WBC has for a lawsuit. I saw a bunch of chanting, dancing and singing teenagers expressing their opinions on the opposite side of the street from the WBC.

Curious Cyn

April 26, 2009 12:16 AM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

Haha! I am sure some of my students feel the same way, Cyn and Jim.

Some may say that I have a twisted mind, but I think that grammar is a whole lot of fun! :-)

Having all that "power" is fantastic!

April 26, 2009 12:17 AM  
Anonymous ha-ha said...

I hope you're still in Mexico, Derrick.

Why don't you go pick up something from a street vendor?

Montezuma wants revenge for the Bush years!

April 26, 2009 1:04 AM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

"Ha-ha":

Are you wishing death upon me?

I guess that I shouldn´t be all that surprised since these are words from the "Anon" Crowd. Thanks for showing your hands for what they really are.

April 26, 2009 1:16 AM  
Anonymous Robert said...

I'm even more repressive: I compel adherence to future passive participles.

April 26, 2009 5:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous" - You certainly dig in your heels and develop a curiously thick skull when you want to.

Let me repeat what I said, and stand by: "You have dishonestly and disingenuously described the actions of the kids at Whitman, who are actually intelligent beings capable of making their own decisions. Those students saw through the hatred, raw bigotry and misappropriation of religion by the sinners of Westboro Baptist Church and their hateful, anti-Christ actions. The kids needed no prompting from their teachers, Principal, or any other adults. They knew injustice when they saw it and they spoke out against it."

But then again, it is painfully obvious to readers here that you have litle use for and no understanding of young people, subscribing to the aphorism that "children should be seen but not heard". (Is that a biblical injunction?)
You must be carrying a lot of scars and grudges in your life.
Athena

April 26, 2009 12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Anon was thinking about Derrick's bowels at 1 AM. Hmmmm

April 26, 2009 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are you wishing death upon me?"

Montezuma's Revenge is not fatal, Derrick.

Just a painful condition brought on by foolish behavior.

I just was giving you a suggestion since you seem to revel in foolishness.

Now, go get a nice burrito from a cart pulled by a donkey painted with stripes.

April 26, 2009 2:17 PM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

AnonBigot--

you are such a racist and a perfect example of how the minds of the CRC-G work.

I don´t wish anything bad to happen to you, AnonBigot- I just want you to get a solid education so that you can make better life decisions in order to become a more productive citizen of the world.

April 26, 2009 3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's what I want for you too, Derrick.

That you'll push your foolishness to a point where it is revealed and you can then become a productive citizen.

April 26, 2009 4:20 PM  
Anonymous Derrick said...

I´d rather be foolish than an ignorant bigot. :-)

Peace.

April 26, 2009 7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They knew injustice when they saw it and they spoke out against it."

Really? I haven't heard of any injustice on Friday other than that the local government was trying to intimidate a small group of protesters, exercising their constitutional rights.

What injustice did these students see?

We're waiting, Athena.

In this county where gays receive special discrimination protection, freely teach in the schools and have high schools named after them, what injustice did these students see?

That a group of seven eccentrics from Kansas doesn't like them?

Oh cruel, harsh world!

The injustice of it all is unbearable.

April 26, 2009 8:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I´d rather be foolish than an ignorant bigot. :-)

Peace."

Try to stop judging others so easily and you might cover both bases at once.

Peace out.

April 26, 2009 8:42 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Look who's talking about judging others!

Have you called anyone a deviant today? Why yes you did at 2:47PM on the Lifestyle -- Huh? thread.

April 26, 2009 9:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, maybe you have a point, Bea

I wasn't precise enough with my language

I should have said that WBC considers a sexual deviant

I actually don't know if Whitman was gay or not

since this came up, I've looked at some of the evidence online and it does look likely but, still, it's not a closed case

I've never bothered to find out that much about him because I never thought he was a very interesting poet

Now, Emily Dickinson and T.S. Eliot are a different story altogether

April 26, 2009 9:27 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

I wasn't precise enough with my language

I should have said that WBC considers a sexual deviant


Oh right, and we've never heard you use the term before when describing LGBT folks!!

(eye roll)

Nice try to spin away the truth, Anon, but we've all read your prior comments and know you've used that term many times before to pronounce your judgment on others.

And BTW, I always read all of Cynthia's well thought out and supported comments and find them to be very illuminating. Thank you Cynthia, for sharing your insights with Vigilance readers.

Anon, you should try reading Cynthia's comments in their entirety, you might learn something.

April 27, 2009 10:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that would be like trying to read poetry by Walt Whitman

pseudo-stupid

calling a behavior deviant is not judgmental

judging would be evaluating a person's moral character

April 27, 2009 1:58 PM  

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