Tuesday, October 13, 2009

A Perfectly Incorrect Statement

Normally, Rush Limbaugh does not deserve a mention on this blog. He blows a lot of hot air, there may be people who listen to him, I don't care. What he says is uninteresting and does not further problem-solving in either direction, as far as I can tell. He delivers daily monologues to losers.

But I have to comment on this latest one. He may have set a new standard of irony. Here's what he said yesterday:
(CNN) – Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh is dismissing Democratic campaigns to paint him as the man steering the Republican Party, and media frenzies over his most controversial comments.

"The media didn't make me, and they can't break me," he said in a portion of an NBC interview that aired Monday. Limbaugh: 'The media didn't make me, and they can't break me'

That statement is so wrong.

What does Rush Limbaugh do for a living? Does he decide policy? Raise funds or invest in the markets? Does he work on cars, work in a factory, a store? Does he sell things, make things, fix things?

No -- he is a voice on the radio, a face on television, and nothing more. His one talent is appearing on TV and radio. How would you like to "appear" for a living? Without the media to magnify him he is just another opinionated junkie.

The media did make him, there is nothing to him but media promotion.

The media didn't make me, and they can't break me. It's such a perfectly incorrect statement, it's like the sky claiming not to be blue. It is a magnificently incorrect statement, it is transcendentally incorrect, it is as if he is saying to the minds of the world "Testing. Testing. Is this thing on?" and they are shouting back, "We can't hear you!" It has come down to the sound of his voice, the tone of it, the content of his speech has finally become empty in a perfect way. Rush Limbaugh's words are a self-devouring Oroboros, a tautology, they are solipsistic, he speaks to a world that consists of nothing but himself, reflected.

Remember when Karl Rove used to talk about gearing the presidential campaign to audiences watching TV with the sound turned down? Rush Limbaugh is like listening to the radio with the sound turned down. Well, there is sound, but it is white noise modulated to approximate the nattering of a human voice. Pitch, timbre, and amplitude fluctuate in a charming but incoherent babble. Listeners, no matter how closely they pay attention, have lost the ability to detect the fact that there is no content to what he says. Even CNN reports this as if it were not a joke: Limbaugh: 'The media didn't make me, and they can't break me'. Some quotes, a picture, there you have it: news. It's got to be true, the media didn't make him, they said it right there on CNN.

"The media" is a phrase we use to refer to broadcasts and publications that report on the events of the times. Often the media report on real events -- an earthquake or battle, a speech by a famous person or expert, a scientific finding or musical performance -- but often these days the media simply report on the media. When they put somebody like Russ Limbaugh in the "news," it is nothing more than one hand signing what the other hand is doing. This is equally true when they report on liberal media personalities, as well, say Rachel Maddow or Jon Stewart, it has nothing to do with him being a Republican or conservative.

But I don't think you will ever catch Rachel Maddow or Jon Stewart saying, "The media didn't make me." They understand the media made them, that's all there is to it; without the media, these people would not have careers, they would have to sell things or make things or fix things like the rest of us. Rush Limbaugh apparently thinks he is famous for ... doing something?

29 Comments:

Anonymous deluxe said...

"Rush Limbaugh is like listening to the radio with the sound turned down."

Nice phrase, Jim.

I think Limbaugh probably meant that he will continue to have listeners and find an outlet because of his potential to draw advertisers regardless of how other media oulets, especially liberal ones, try to characterize him.

btw, AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are trying to block Limbaugh from buying a NFL team.

I don't think those two can make him or break him.

October 13, 2009 10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a rare interview, conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said that President Barack Obama's election has worsened racial problems, not helped solve them.

Limbaugh claimed that critics of Obama's policies are quickly labeled racist, creating a toxic environment for political discourse.

"I'll be honest with you, I predicted to you it was going to exacerbate racial problems, and it has," he told NBC in an interview that aired this morning. "Any criticism of President Obama is going to be said to be racism. And if you don't like his healthcare bill, racism. And I opposed it when Clinton and Hillary were trying to do it, and they aren't black."

Limbaugh, who is an adamant opponent of President Obama, said that his election as the first black president "was wonderful when it happened" but that he "got over it very quickly."

"He's the president of the United States. His skin color doesn't matter to me, his policies are what matter," Limbaugh added.

When asked if some of the past segments on his show, such as a song called "Barack the 'Magic Negro,' " crossed the line from satire into racism — Limbaugh defended them as pure satire.

"Would you ask someone who writes for 'Saturday Night Live' these questions?" he responded, saying the title was lifted from a Los Angeles Times column written by a black man.

Limbaugh also demurred when asked if he was the leader of the Republican Party and had the power to influence GOPers like party Chairman Michael Steele. The chairman apologized to Limbaugh after he criticized him several months ago.

"Well, I'm going to dispute that I have that much power," Limbaugh said. "I believe in the free market. And if the free market creates that with my participation in it — then it is what it is."

October 13, 2009 2:26 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

What a lovely pirouette!

These do not sound like "satire" to me:

Videos of Limbaugh's Racist Remarks

October 13, 2009 4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to the link about Rush and listened. So where's the racism?

October 13, 2009 10:59 PM  
Anonymous deluxe said...

it's a common technique of anon-B

Google something and post the resulting links without giving it any thought

she figures few will actually the links and see how vacuous they are

I looked at a few of the videos and they seem to be mainly Limbaugh calling Sotomayer a racist

if accusing others of racism is racism then anon-B has a log in her eye

October 14, 2009 6:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Rush tape that I listened to, that Bea posted, had Rush discussing his views on problems within the black community. In a nutshell, Rush said that he felt that groups like Acorn, and people like Bill Ayers, have purposefully and systematically promoted discontent within the black community.

It is perfectly valid of Bea or others to state that they don't agree, or that they agree, with Rush's views. However, I'm not getting where the racism comes in to play....

October 14, 2009 8:55 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

I don't think anyone is surprised that you are unable hear the racism in Rush's comments, such as:

"Obama's comments were rooted in a racial attitude about racial profiling."

"Obama threw his grandmother under the bus as a typical white person."

"It is, it's almost buying into the Magic Negro thing and when you get right down to it, Joan Walsh is almost saying, "Hey, you know, this is a guy who doesn't scare us," Only she's saying it in reverse. We're the ones that don't scare him. It's like Joan, no, it's not magic, it's Joan Walsh and The White, well there's no such thing as a white... The Magic White, it's Joan Walsh just describing the Magic White. Now I just want to make sure I have this straight. Turns out I am the racist."

"Folks, I, I, I, the current Islamist identity of Islam, the terrorist wing of Islam, which is what it's most known for today, is trying to take us back to the 7th Century. Now, I know this is going to offend some people, but we're going to have to look at the Nobel Prize winners and we're going to find, see how many Muslims are there. And I could really anger some people if I said, "Let's compare the number of Muslims who uh have been Nobel Prize winners to the number of Jews who have been Nobel Prize winners," and I don't think it's been a contest."

"Oh by the way, did you hear about Joe Biden? Joe Biden was mystified how Bobby Jindal got his shift off at 7-11 to make that speech."

"They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur? It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting block then they're in trouble....So you go into Darfur, and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela."

October 14, 2009 10:32 AM  
Anonymous deluxe said...

some of these comments accuse liberals of not being color blind

again, accusing someone else of being racist is not the same as being racist

some of these comments may be wrong but none are racist as far as I can see

why don't you pick out one and explain how it's racist?

October 14, 2009 12:14 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Does anyone else need an explanation of the racism in the comments above made by Rush Limbaugh?

Or these ("explanations" found here):

1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.

3. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

4. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.

5. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

[related comment from yesterday: "It has become clear that [Limbaugh's'] involvement in our group has become a complication and a distraction to our intentions, endangering our bid to keep the team in St. Louis," Checketts said in a statement released Wednesday afternoon. "As such, we have decided to move forward without him and hope it will eventually lead us to a successful conclusion."]
...Makes me almost want to listen to Rush' show today to hear how he responds to being dropped from the group trying to buy the Rams.

6. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

7. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

8. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).

9. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.

October 15, 2009 7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bea -- I picked one fantastical quote out of your list and Googled it. Do you know how to use Google? Here's what I found Zennie62:

Rush Limbaugh did not make "James Earl Ray" statement

More at Zennie62.com | Follow me on Twitter! | Get my widget! | Visit YouTube | Visit UShow.com

While I may dislike Rush Limbaugh's takes on African Americans it does not mean I will not defend him if he's falsely accused of making a statement. I will defend Rush Limbaugh.

In this case, there's a quote that has flown around the Internet almost unchecked and found its way into a famous "Top 10 racist quotes" list that has been used by everyone from myself to some cable television news outlets.

It's this:

"You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed."

Well, it turns out this is one statement Rush Limbaugh never said.

Go to his blog if you want to read the whole thing. There are other articles about the lie too.

October 15, 2009 8:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good grief, Bea. Go to snopes.com and check out the truth about those completely fabricated or distorted "quotes" of Rush Limbaugh.

October 15, 2009 11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon-B is a bigot who hates fat people so much she will believe any lie about them

October 15, 2009 12:07 PM  
Anonymous Robert said...

Are you calling me fat?

October 15, 2009 12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

were you dropped on your head as a child, Robert?

October 15, 2009 2:00 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Good grief, Bea. Go to snopes.com and check out the truth about those completely fabricated or distorted "quotes" of Rush Limbaugh.

Congratulations, fact checking before posting is important and there are trusted sites like SNOPES.com where it can be done. I should have checked SNOPES.com first, we all should. Hopefully you'll check SNOPES.com from now on before posting birther/deather/tea bagger crap.

Since Anonymous has twisted what SNOPES.com said, I'll untwist it for Vigilance readers.

SNOPES.com reported its results checking those quotes were a "Mixture." SNOPES.com found that Rush Limbaugh made six of the nine racist comments I cited above, from this site (comments 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9). SNOPES.com found comments 1 and 2 came from a 2006 book called 101 People Who Are Really Screwing America and comment 7 had "been indirectly referenced as something Rush Limbaugh once said on the air since at least as far back as 2000, but we have found no documenting source for it."

In addition to six racist comments, numbers 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9 above, every one of the six racist comments that I posted on October 14, 2009 at 10:32 AM was made by Rush in the videos I had linked to a day earlier.

That's twelve of the fifteen racist comments I found that were truly said by Rush Limbaugh.

Bea -- I picked one fantastical quote out of your list and Googled it. Do you know how to use Google? Here's what I found Zennie62:

Rush Limbaugh did not make "James Earl Ray" statement....

...Go to his blog if you want to read the whole thing. There are other articles about the lie too.


I found the 9 comments using Google.

Are you "Zennie62"?
Where is "his blog," what is its URL?
Do you know how to cite Internet sources?

Now that you've checked 1 of the 15 racist comments I posted, what research are you going to do on the other 14? Do you want to talk about the 12 racist comments that were in fact made by Rush Limbaugh or do you just want to talk about the 3 racist comments that were not?

October 16, 2009 8:07 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Limbaugh Fumbles for Response to Accusations of Racial Insensitivity:
Radio host's "colorblind" claim at odds with long history of racially charged comments


"..."Rush Limbaugh's claim that he is colorblind is clearly contradicted by his long history of offensive, racially charged statements," said Eric Burns, President of Media Matters. "If he is blind to anything, it's his own record."...

...•"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."
•"I do believe" Obama is an "angry black guy."
•"[I]n Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering."
•"Obama's entire economic program is reparations."
•Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American" and is "behaving like an African colonial despot."
•Obama is "Halfrican-American."
•"Obama has disowned his white half ... he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side."
•Sotomayor "a reverse racist" appointed by Obama, "the greatest living example of a reverse racist."
•Obama "wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya" and "wants to be the black FDR."
•Latching onto LA Times op-ed, Limbaugh sings "Barack, The Magic Negro."
•"God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen."
•Limbaugh on Gates controversy: "Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman."
•Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers."
•Limbaugh suggests Democrats, media believe "you can't criticize the little black man-child."
•"The government's been taking care of [young blacks] their whole lives."
•"The days of [minorities] not having any power are over, and they are angry."
•"[M]inorities never do anything for which they have to apologize."
•Limbaugh: "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."
•Limbaugh says "NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips."
•Limbaugh declares basketball "the favorite sport of gangs."
•Limbaugh invented "racial component" to Hackett's decision to withdraw from Ohio primary race.
•Limbaugh on Survivor series: "African-American tribe" worst swimmers, Hispanics "will do things other people won't do."
•Limbaugh suggested Colin Powell only supported Obama because of race.
•Limbaugh: Gates is an "angry racist."
•Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an "invasive species."
•Limbaugh repeatedly calls Native Americans "Injuns."
•Limbaugh says Democrats' interest in Darfur is securing black "voting bloc."
•Limbaugh says that if "feminazis" had remembered to oppose "affirmative action for black guys ... they wouldn't face the situation they face today."

October 16, 2009 8:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bea,

The only one of these that could possibly be considered racist is the one about hispanics being able to do do things other people won't do. However, I would hold off judgement on that until I see the whole context. If Rush had said that women are able to do things that other people won't do -- would that be considered sexist? I don't know. Probably so because it attributes a characteristic to a group of people simply because of their race or sex.

Anyone who has read the Bloods and Crips comment in full context concludes that it's not racist. You can Google for that to read it.

Obama is always talking about race, Bea, so there's no reason that the topic should be off limits for the public.

October 16, 2009 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

The only one of these that could possibly be considered racist is the one about hispanics

I disagree. IMHO each of these comments is racist.

I would hold off judgement on that until I see the whole context.

Click on the link to the MediaMatters source ("Limbaugh Fumbles for Response...") I provided. Each of the comments in MM's post is a link to the source. All but one link goes to a video or audio recording of Rush making the racist comment in context. Dates of the broadcasts are also given so you can go to Rush's website and hear the entire show if desired for even fuller context.

October 16, 2009 9:28 AM  
Anonymous Robert said...

Yes. What are you saying?

October 16, 2009 9:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Based upon the MediaMatters explanation of the Survivor/Hispanic quote, it looks like Limbaugh was saying that the Hispanic team would do things that the other teams wouldn't do.

That's not racist. He was watching the Hispanic team and commenting on that particular team's talents.

If there were a team of men and a team of women and the women would do things that the men wouldn't, what would be wrong with saying "the women will do things that the other team wouldn't do."?

October 16, 2009 10:48 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

only one of these that could possibly be considered racist

Really? If President Obama said "I do believe Rush Limbaugh is an angry white guy," there'd be no question in your mind he was making a racist comment, yet when Rush says that about the President, you don't see the racism in it.

No surprise there.

Every single one of the more than 30 comments I've cited that Rush made (not including the 3 comments Snopes.com can't find direct quotes for) is racist.

it looks like Limbaugh was saying that the Hispanic team would do things that the other teams wouldn't do.

What do you mean, "it looks like?" What did you **look** at?

I listened to the audio tape, and transcribed it for Vigilance readers. Rush said nothing about "things" any team would or would not do. He said:

"...that TV show Survivor, you know they segregated all those tribes by race and by ethnicity. But after only two episodes, the segregation has ended. They have merged the black, white, Asian and Latino tribes in two mixed race gangs. There can only be (laughs while talking) one reason for this, ladies and gentlemen, that is the white tribe had to be winning. Were it not for that, there would be none of this mixed gang business going on after only two episodes..."

"Segregated by race and ethnicity" per Rush = "tribes"

"Mixed race" per Rush = "gangs"

Now imagine Don King saying while laughing, "the only reason the teams were desegregated was because the black team was winning."

October 17, 2009 2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, it is CBS that called them "tribes" -- not Rush. Rush even commented that it was strange that CBS was calling them tribes and not groups or something.

Second, I was wrong about the Hispanic quote, but not in the way you think I was wrong. I read that Limbaugh had said that Hispanics have "probably shown the most survival tactics." I thought this meant that Rush had seen the Hispanic tribe (as CBS called them) in action.

However, when I found the rest of the quote, which says "that they "have shown a remarkable ability to cross borders," and that they can "do it without water for a long time. They don't get apprehended, and they will do things other people won't do" -- I realized that Rush was playing off an old joke that he regularly makes about Pelosi, in regards to some ridiculous statements she made once along those lines about Hispanic immigrants. She was trying to be complimentary, but it came off sounding ridiculous.

Also, if Obama said that Rush was an "angry white guy," I wouldn't consider that a racist remark. If Obama said that "white men are angrier than black men, and Rush is an example of that" -- then I would consider that to be racist (unless, of course, there was proof that Obama's statement was true).

Bea -- are you defining "racism" as anyone who talks about race or anyone who acknowledges that there are people in this world who are racist?

October 18, 2009 12:34 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

I use Webster's meaning:

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

October 18, 2009 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

I don't watch the show so I don't know, but who called the mixed race groups "gangs" -- CBS or was that just Rush?

October 18, 2009 11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't watch the show either, so I have no idea about the gang comment. I had to look on the Survivor website to see that the tribes are called tribes. However, I see no significance in using the word "gang." All races have gangs.

October 18, 2009 8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities"

Pretty much present in none of the above statements.

"and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

ZERO indication of this in ANY of the statements.

So no, I don't think you're using the Webster definition. I think you're using the "every reference to a person's race for any reason is a racist statement, but only if it's made by a male WASP"

October 19, 2009 12:50 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

ZERO indication of this in ANY of the statements.

Oh right, laughing while saying

"There can only be one reason for this, ladies and gentlemen, that is the white tribe had to be winning."

does not in any way imply

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

< eye roll >

I see no significance in using the word "gang."

The word "gang" does not evoke cutesy images like Spanky and Our Gang any more. It evokes images like the Crips and the Bloods. Just ask Rush.

< eye roll >

October 19, 2009 11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bea,

The statement regarding the white team must be winning means this:

If a minority team was winning, then the producers would have been less likely to change teams, as they wouldn't want to appear racist. However, if a white team were winning, then no one would worry about the racism issue.

The above, of course, is a sad statement about reverse racism.

October 19, 2009 4:46 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Anon's statement needs to be revised to read:

"The statement regarding the white team must be winning means this" **to Anonymous.**

At the time, Rush was discriminating against minorities -- blacks, hispanics, and Asians -- when he said it.

October 22, 2009 11:12 AM  

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